Thanks Diana, I never heard of Hashis before. Loretta — In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism.
You are welcome. Here is a link but there may be better ones out there for this. http://familydoctor.org/handouts/548.html I hate seeing such a young girl go through this stuff. Di
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> Reisa, you know how sorry I am about the loss of your mother, > What is Hashis disease.
Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis? — Type 2 http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/
> Thanks Diana, I never heard of Hashis before.
It’s the most common cause of low thyroid. If you have low thyroid, you may have it. — Type 2 http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/
> I haven’t gotten this post from Reisa so forgive me please for > piggybacking off you Loretta. I too want to extend my condolences on > your Loss Reisa. I know how close the two of you are and I am sorry > for your pain and sorrow.
<snip> I haven’t gotten the post yet either. My sympathy to your family. — Type 2 http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/
Me either, my sincerest sympathies to you and yours RK. — Cheri – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I haven’t gotten this post from Reisa so forgive me please for > piggybacking off you Loretta. I too want to extend my condolences on > your Loss Reisa. I know how close the two of you are and I am sorry > for your pain and sorrow. ><snip> >I haven’t gotten the post yet either. My sympathy to your family. >– >Type 2 >http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/
Diana I have seen people with Goiter but I didnt know it was called Hashimotos disease. Thanks for the link. Loretta — In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism.
Glad to help a second time <G> Di
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Glad to help. Di
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Hey you finally showed up on my server ! :-) all at the same time. You and I talked a while back and though your Momma has passed she is no longer in pain but it sure doesn’t seem to make it any easier on us that are left here. I do care and I am very sorry you are having to go through this sorrow. Diana – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > thank you so much diana, i know she’s better off now. > — > — > RK > T1 – 5/00 > In tribute to the United States of America and the State > of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and > terrorism. > : I haven’t gotten this post from Reisa so forgive me please for > : piggybacking off you Loretta. I too want to extend my condolences on > : your Loss Reisa. I know how close the two of you are and I am sorry > : for your pain and sorrow. > : > : Loretta, it is a disease of the thyroid. > : > : Diana > : > Reisa, you know how sorry I am about the loss of your mother, > : > > : > What is Hashis disease. > : > > : > Loretta > : > > : > — > : > In tribute to the United States of America and the State > : > of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife > : and > : > terrorism. > : > > : > :
"Hashi’s" is short for Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis, also called Chronic thyroiditis; Struma lymphomatosa; Lymphadenoid goiter; Chronic lymphocytic thyroiditis; Autoimmune thyroiditis (from medlineplus encyc.) bj
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Reisa, you know how sorry I am about the loss of your mother, What is Hashis disease. Loretta — In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism.
I haven’t gotten this post from Reisa so forgive me please for piggybacking off you Loretta. I too want to extend my condolences on your Loss Reisa. I know how close the two of you are and I am sorry for your pain and sorrow. Loretta, it is a disease of the thyroid. Diana
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Is there a message board or newsgroups I might go to relating to sjogren’s syndrome? Any information would be most appreciative. Suzanne
There is no Sjogren’s (SjS) newsgroup, but there are a couple of newslists. For more information go to: http://dry.org If you have trouble with this please write me and I will send you more specific instructions. Susan Tillery – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Is there a message board or newsgroups I might go to relating to sjogren’s > syndrome? Any information would be most appreciative. Suzanne
> Is there a message board or newsgroups I might go to relating to sjogren’s > syndrome? Any information would be most appreciative. Suzanne
Here is a post from the past that has lots of good stuff in it for you. Harv A good place to begin is http://dry.org/ There you can find articles on SjS and links to websites on the subject. You will also find a couple of email lists for SjS which you might find helpful. The MedlinePlus is also a good resource for SjS: http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/sjogrenssyndrome.html I highly recommend "The New Sjogren’s Syndrome Handbook" published by the Sjogren’s Syndrome Foundation http://www.sjogrens.org/ as well. I use a preservative free artificial tear and a night time dry eye ointment both of which are available over the counter. You also should see a rheumatologist and an ophthalmologist if you have not already. I hope this helps, Susan Tillery – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > My endocrinologist yesterday confirmed that my dry eye may be influence at > least in part by my thyroiditis (there is a blood test to see if you carry the > antibody that causes thyroid-influenced dry eye, apparently). He and my > optician both say that my thyroid levels are normal and that the more probable > cause of my dry eye is another autoimmune disorder, Sjogren’s Syndrome. > This is hell on earth. I’m taking Flax Seed Oil now; I’ll take anything on > earth that’s legal and that can possibly help me. Any e-mail, information on > Sjogren’s, or posts more than welcome. > Thanks, > Hilary
Thanks Harv, My words exactly, ;-) LOL Susan Tillery – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Is there a message board or newsgroups I might go to relating to sjogren’s > syndrome? Any information would be most appreciative. Suzanne > Here is a post from the past that has lots of good stuff in it for you. > Harv
> Thanks Harv, > My words exactly, ;-) LOL
LOLOL so they were,,,uhhh are,,,well you know. LOLOL Harv
Ok I went to the family PA because I was retaining water and guess what both of my THyroids are enlarge quite big. They did the blood and then a ultrasound but my questions is. Couldn’t this all be related to the psorasis? From what I read it is all related. I have pustular psoraisis on my hands and feet. Any feed back on this would be great. I don’t find out the levels until Tuesday. Thanks a bunch. Kristie
: Ok I went to the family PA because I was retaining water and guess what both : of my THyroids are enlarge quite big. They did the blood and then a : ultrasound but my questions is. Couldn’t this all be related to the : psorasis? From what I read it is all related. I have pustular psoraisis on : my hands and feet. Any feed back on this would be great. : I don’t find out the levels until Tuesday. Thanks a bunch. : Kristie If you’re thyroids are enlargened, then you probably have hyper- thyroidism. If you are, welcome to the club. Your doctor should be checking your T3, T4 and TSH levels to verify this. As you say, they’re related since they’re both triggered by the autoimmune system. M, BATR.. ..Steve Bilan
I don’t have an answer for you except to point you to another source. There is a newsgroup that is specific for thyroid related issues: alt.support.thyroid — Imar
I would appreciate advice and/or suggestions for alternative thyroid treatments. My T4 and T3 fall into the "normal" range, but TSH is slightly elevated. I was diagnosed approx. 10 yrs. ago with Hashimoto’s thyroiditis, and placed on Synthroid. However, I cannot tolerate it; I experience heart palpitations and symptoms of "hyper." I have also tried all the other forms of thyroxine, including Armour thyroid; same results. Are there alternative methods for getting the thyroid to work again? Nell
Thyroid – 36 year old woman, who once had thick hair, experiencing thinning on top. Traditional blood tests, including the thyroid panel, appear within normal range, and only other symptom is feeling very cold at times, especially when eating. Sometimes body is so cold that shivering results. Diet includes adequate protein, fish and chicken, and supplements. Seeking alternative therapies. Thanks. –
>Thyroid – 36 year old woman, who once had thick hair, experiencing >thinning on top. Traditional blood tests, including the thyroid panel, >appear within normal range, and only other symptom is feeling very cold >at times, especially when eating. Sometimes body is so cold that >shivering results. Diet includes adequate protein, fish and chicken, and >supplements. Seeking alternative therapies. Thanks. >-
Peter, My wife has been using non-prescription transdermal NATURAL Progesterone cream for about 4 months and her symptoms of low thyroid are beginning to subside (she has been on synthroid). Get a copy of the book "What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Menopause" by John R. Lee, MD. (it is a paperback for $12.99 published in May ‘96) to find out how progesterone can reverse osteoporosis, protect you from cancer and alleviate many bad health problems caused by estrogen dominance. Dr. Lee explains that excess estrogen (progesterone deficiency) inhibits the utilization of the thyroid hormone even if blood levels are normal. My wife had the cold symptoms even though she was taking thyroid. Her splitting nails have also been alleviated. George Prell
I don’t have an answer for you except to point you to another source. There is a newsgroup that is specific for thyroid related issues: alt.support.thyroid — Imar
I would appreciate advice and/or suggestions for alternative thyroid treatments. My T4 and T3 fall into the "normal" range, but TSH is slightly elevated. I was diagnosed approx. 10 yrs. ago with Hashimoto’s thyroiditis, and placed on Synthroid. However, I cannot tolerate it; I experience heart palpitations and symptoms of "hyper." I have also tried all the other forms of thyroxine, including Armour thyroid; same results. Are there alternative methods for getting the thyroid to work again? Nell
Thyroid – 36 year old woman, who once had thick hair, experiencing thinning on top. Traditional blood tests, including the thyroid panel, appear within normal range, and only other symptom is feeling very cold at times, especially when eating. Sometimes body is so cold that shivering results. Diet includes adequate protein, fish and chicken, and supplements. Seeking alternative therapies. Thanks. –
>Thyroid – 36 year old woman, who once had thick hair, experiencing >thinning on top. Traditional blood tests, including the thyroid panel, >appear within normal range, and only other symptom is feeling very cold >at times, especially when eating. Sometimes body is so cold that >shivering results. Diet includes adequate protein, fish and chicken, and >supplements. Seeking alternative therapies. Thanks. >-
Peter, My wife has been using non-prescription transdermal NATURAL Progesterone cream for about 4 months and her symptoms of low thyroid are beginning to subside (she has been on synthroid). Get a copy of the book "What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Menopause" by John R. Lee, MD. (it is a paperback for $12.99 published in May ‘96) to find out how progesterone can reverse osteoporosis, protect you from cancer and alleviate many bad health problems caused by estrogen dominance. Dr. Lee explains that excess estrogen (progesterone deficiency) inhibits the utilization of the thyroid hormone even if blood levels are normal. My wife had the cold symptoms even though she was taking thyroid. Her splitting nails have also been alleviated. George Prell
i also get recurring bronchitis. possibly related?
> The question I have for the group: > how do you determine if the doc is going to take you seriously without > seeing him/her for months at a time?
IF he won’t see you for months at a time, he’s (she) already on the $#!* list. — tommy Associate Editor – MacTIPS <http://www.mac-tips.com>
Dear Folks, Recently I went to my primary doc for help with another reactivation of a virus that comes & goes with stress although now it takes very little stress to reactive it. The virus triggers a round of thyroiditis and the thyroiditis lowers my thyroid hormones. To make a long story short, the thyroid hormones were low although not terribly low but nevertheless low. A couple months later I’m again completely wiped out and unable to work. I went to the doc to get help and he said the thyroid hormone level was normal (it was not – I saw the results). I’ve decided the doc does not want me for a patient given that all lab results that come back abnormal are called ‘normal’ and he does nothing to help. BTW, the usual treatment for recurrent thyroiditiis that will not stay away is prednisone. When I’ve gotten prednisone, the disease regresses and stays away for up to two years at a time and I’m fit and able to function. So, I’m in search of a new doctor. The question I have for the group: how do you determine if the doc is going to take you seriously without seeing him/her for months at a time? The textbooks I’ve read on ‘thyroiditis’ state that it is not treated because it is self-limiting and goes away by itself. The texts also state that if the disease is disabling and does not ‘go away’ within a reasonable period of time, it probably should be treated. Say for example if the person cannot carry out activities of daily living. My test results indicate that I have the disease again and again it is not being treated. The last time I had it, it took 8 months to regress and during the 8 months that I had it, I became completely unable to work, sometimes could not cook for myself and could not drive either. So, I’d say I need to find a doctor who will treat this but I’m at a loss how to do this or how to get the docs to stop blowing off abnormal results and calling them ‘normal’. Any suggestions? Sheryl —
I have lived in three different parts of the country, and I have seen 8 rheumatologists. I hope this is the last move and the last rheumatologist I will need! 
) Kathy W.
> I have lived in three different parts of the country, and I have seen 8 > rheumatologists. I hope this is the last move and the last rheumatologist I > will need! ) > Kathy W.
Hi Kathy, Good to see you on the board again. Hhhhm 8 RDs, that makes you kind of a pro at it. LOL Harv
I remember that kleenex in the nose story and laughed my fanny off when I read it. Who is the person that saw that dr. I can’t remember. It truly is a classic!!! Jeannette
Hi Mary, I know what you’re going through. The same thing happened to me several years ago. I went to a well-respected rheumy in search of some new medication for my unrelenting pain. We talked for a few minutes, then he ordered blood work. When the blood test results came back, he told me that I could not be experiencing such severe pain because the test came back negative. (I don’t remember the name of the test, but it sounds similar to the one you had.) I immediately began to cry in his office. I couldn’t understand why he wouldn’t listen to me. Don’t they get into this line of work to help people? His advice to me was to take Tylenol as needed, if I was experiencing what I thought was pain. I also asked him about an ankle replacement when I was there and his response to me was that I would not be considered for it because I was too young. So much for quality of life. My advice to you is to try to get some referrals for a rheumy. You could probably get a referral from someone on this newsgroup. Hang in there, Michelle in VA
Hi folks, Has anyone had problems finding a rheumy who figures out exactly what is going on and gets on it. I am on my second rheumy now, and although she is good and listens to me, I am still feeling like the excruciating pain I’m having is not being taken seriously enough. There’s too much time taking place between visits, tests, etc. My initial rheumy always told me I wasn’t having the pain I was having, and I maybe had OA, nothing else. I told him there was "something else" going on, but he didn’t believe me. Also, he told me since my bloodwork came back seronegative, I didn’t have RA or anything else. I left him. Has this happened to others? How many doctors do people go through before they find someone suitable? Thanks in advance. Mary
Hi Mary, I have had three but only the second one needed to be replaced for how he practiced and my third never did get medical records from the 2d either. The first one retired. I am a great believer in more open communication between doc and patient and taking notes about what has taken place since the last time I saw the doc and any questions I have. I just had them to the doc when he walks in. I also might hand him some of the latest stuff that comes from Kitty,JD, Liz, or Krissy if I think he will find it interesting for him to read later or throw away as he sees fit. Harv – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi folks, > Has anyone had problems finding a rheumy who figures out exactly what > is going on and gets on it. I am on my second rheumy now, and although she > is good and listens to me, I am still feeling like the excruciating pain > I’m having is not being taken seriously enough. There’s too much time > taking place between visits, tests, etc. > My initial rheumy always told me I wasn’t having the pain I was having, > and I maybe had OA, nothing else. I told him there was "something else" > going on, but he didn’t believe me. Also, he told me since my bloodwork > came back seronegative, I didn’t have RA or anything else. I left him. > Has this happened to others? How many doctors do people go through before > they find someone suitable? > Thanks in advance. > Mary
> > I should of known he was an idiot, since he sat there with bloody kleenex > hanging out of his nose…. > Guess you could say he literally gave you a "red flag" warning! > ; ) Liz G
ROFL!! If I was drinking anything I would have had to clean off the screen!!! — "There are some people that if they don’t know, you can’t tell ‘em." — Louis Armstrong http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Nook/9300
>I should of known he was an idiot, since he sat there with bloody kleenex >hanging out of his nose….
I remember when you posted about that….. Rose
> I should of known he was an idiot, since he sat there with bloody kleenex > hanging out of his nose….
Guess you could say he literally gave you a "red flag" warning! ; ) Liz G
>I should of known he was an idiot, since he sat there with bloody kleenex >hanging out of his nose….
EEEWWWWW! :O) Mary Lynn (mlh) (O: :O) "Of all the things I’ve lost, I miss my mind the most" :O) (remove ma in email address)
> When the blood test results came back, he told me that I could not be > experiencing such severe pain because the test came back negative. (I don’t > remember the name of the test, but it sounds similar to the one you had.) I > immediately began to cry in his office
Michelle, That kind of treatment should be criminal! Since when is there a blood test for pain???! The only test I know of is……you try to move my joint *that* way—-> I scream! I hope you are not still going to that doc….. Liz G
Mary, I had to go through 2 rheumy’s. First one kept giving me shots and more shots and told me it would pass. pain severe in hips and unable to walk. I wrote him a letter and told him I did not appreciate his not getting back with me and his staff putting me off. Bingo he told me that if I did not like it go somewhere else. Boom fired him. Next one took me off all medrol (cortisone) been on it for 5 yrs and said. Take celebrex and go to thereapy. Heck I was in PT for over a yr. Did no good. Boom went to know Spine clinic and ended up with back surgery. Oh oh..Then back to that rheumy number 2 because there was no one else even near this area at the time. Again pain was bad in joints and he just said take more celebrex, and never say you have lupus with joint involvement. Tests for sed rate was mildly elevated at the time. Injected a few joints and said live with it and go back to PT, you will get over it..Then ruptured my cervical neck disk and had to have a plate and screws and bone graft, Went back to rheumy, live with it and go to PT…Now I was P O’d so I got on line to a well known clinic and bingo they called me and got me in and by then and that was only 2 weeks, my sed rate was 86 and positive positve tests came back… I was angry….I call the number 2 rheumy and his response, Welll, your tests here did not show anything and did not warrent follow up. You do not want to know my response. ha ha… I should of known he was an idiot, since he sat there with bloody kleenex hanging out of his nose…. After receiveing help from a great rheumy I got in to one closer to me, but I have to say that the one I have now is nice and If I need to go back to the big clinic she will send me. Good thing we get new docs around this area. so sorry this is long….But you have a right to demand good care. If you do not take care of your body who the H will. Get some good help…and like Char said Knowledge is POWER….. — Janers "Somedays are diamonds, Somedays are stones" Somedays this pain won’t leave me the hell alone"
Mary-Your story is NOT unfamiliar, unfortunately. I was really lucky to find a great RD on the second try. But I have heard stories here where folks had to go to 4-5 different RDs to find a keeper. I found mine, by taking the advice of a friend who was a retired RN. If you know any nurses, it might be worthwhile to pick their brains. Sorry you are having such problems. Hope you find a good one, very soon. In the mean time, tell your RD the same thing you have told us. STRESS to her, all that is going on with you. But you need to keep in mind that some of the treatments they use for inflammatory arthrtis take weeks to kick in. You didnt mention what meds you are taking. But if the problem is pain, ASK for pain meds. Ultram for instance, is a non-narcotic analgesic. It doesnt work for everyone, but it worked for me for a couple of years. Know your options. Knowledge is power. Char "Remember, I’m pulling for ya’. We’re all in this together." Red Green
Hi Mary, Sorry to hear about your shoulder pain. Yes, it can be RA causing your shoulder to hurt. Early on in my RA my shoulder froze up (I had been ironing pieces to a quilt for several hours) in extreme pain. Could not move it into any position, the swollen joint had pinched off a nerve. Drove to my rheumy’s office the next morning and parked my butt in his office until he could squeeze me in. Got a cortisone shot in my shoulder and 36 hours later my shoulder was back to normal! Pain pills may help you to fall asleep tonight. Even if your doc won’t treat you for RA, you can probably convince him/her or another doc (I’ve gone shopping before until I find one to say yes!) to give you a shot. Best of luck, I know what you’re going through. Jean in Portland, OR
I’ve been *very* tired lately, and work’s been hard, so I’ve been lurking more than posting. My new rheumatologist wants to give my thyroid levels a chance to even out (and remove the complicating symptoms of Hashimoto’s thyroiditis) until autumn to say for *sure* that I have RA and decide how to treat it. And all of a sudden, right in the middle of today, I have extreme *shoulder* pain. I don’t know if this could be RA, or a pinched nerve, or what, so I’ll ask the same question I did about my hip: What does *your* shoulder pain feel like? How does it affect your range of motion? What part of the arm/shoulder/neck/back is it in? What kind of movement causes pain? I haven’t had shoulder pain (not on this level, of this type) before, and it was sudden and surprising. Before I get too into diagnosis (and before I plan to take Tuesday off and call the doctor for a visit) I want your points of view, to see how likely this is to be related to my (probable) RA or is something completely different. Mary http://www.prado.com/~iris
>What does *your* shoulder pain feel like? How does it affect your >range of motion? What part of the arm/shoulder/neck/back is it in? >What kind of movement causes pain?
At this point, a few hours later, from what I’ve read online, it’s seeming like a rotator cuff injury. Dang it. Oh well, at least it’s at the beginning of a long weekend so I don’t have to miss work.) Mary http://www.prado.com/~iris
Mary, In the months before I was diagnosed, one of my "injuries" was a rotator cuff injury. Had it injected with cortisone and it didn’t bother me for a year or so. RA shoulder pain can be very similar to rotator cuff pain. ~Krissy Akron, Ohio http://arthritisinsight.com Knowledge is power…support is essential.
Hi Mary, A sharp sudden pain usually involves a nerve that could be in you shoulder, neck or upper back. RA should pain involves loss of function. I cannot play through the pain so to speak and I have problems with my shoulders from RA. It did not come on quickly and has not completely gone away even with Enbrel. I think your plan for Tuesday is a good idea and good luck with trying to get in. Some people have to wait a couple of months or get on a cancellation list if someone does not make their appointment. Harv – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I’ve been *very* tired lately, and work’s been hard, so I’ve been > lurking more than posting. > My new rheumatologist wants to give my thyroid levels a chance to even > out (and remove the complicating symptoms of Hashimoto’s thyroiditis) > until autumn to say for *sure* that I have RA and decide how to treat > it. > And all of a sudden, right in the middle of today, I have extreme > *shoulder* pain. I don’t know if this could be RA, or a pinched nerve, > or what, so I’ll ask the same question I did about my hip: > What does *your* shoulder pain feel like? How does it affect your > range of motion? What part of the arm/shoulder/neck/back is it in? > What kind of movement causes pain? > I haven’t had shoulder pain (not on this level, of this type) before, > and it was sudden and surprising. Before I get too into diagnosis (and > before I plan to take Tuesday off and call the doctor for a visit) I > want your points of view, to see how likely this is to be related to > my (probable) RA or is something completely different. > Mary > http://www.prado.com/~iris
Mary, when my RA acts up in my shoulders it has always been bilateral. Never just one shoulder. That may be OA or, more likely, a bursa flaring up (bursitis). A steroid/medrol shot will probably fix it up. Best, Larry Before you buy.
Mary… Unless specifically recall an injury incident, I doubt a rotator cuff injury. Sounds like tendonitis or osteo arthritis. I was out putting up Christmas lights a couple ofl years ago. It was chilly that day. Before I finished, I had shoulder and hand joint pain. Up to that time I had not had any pain like this. That night I could not sleep. Went to the Doc and she said it was Osteo Arthritis… gave me a shot, sent me to therapy, started exercise regime, and put me on high doses of ibuprofen. Cleared up within 6 weeks, lasted for about a year. When it started again, keeping me awake at night (the pain never really goes away) I had quit ibuprofen.. and I didnt want another shot…I heard that stuff destroys tissue, so I looked up Arthritis on the Internet and discovered glucosamine with chondroiten, a dietary supplement. Also took calcium, ginko biloba and vitamin E. I consulted my MD on this plan and she said go for it. Long story short, I have stopped everything but the glucosamine w/chondroiten and cut that back to 2xs a day and it is much improved… I’s say 80%. Been doing this for over a year, never take ibuprophen except for an occasional head ache. wooly * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping. Smart is Beautiful
>Mary… Unless specifically recall an injury incident, I >doubt a rotator cuff injury.
It *feels* like one … I know better than to diagnose myself with one 
It’s got the symptoms that fit rotator cuff injury well. And rather than diagnose myself with OA either, I’m going to go to my doctor (either my PCP or the RD who’s holding off treating my RA assertively until she knows for sure it’s not an extreme case of Hashimoto’s disease) and ask what it might be, and what I should do about it. My body’s currently too confused for me to assume a single cause of anything, but so far, my shoulder (and its reactions to movement and manipulation) seem more similar to a pinched nerve or injury related to RA or a rotator cuff injury than they do to osteoarthritis. But it *could* be tendinitis. At any rate, I’ll check with the docs tomorrow morning. Mary http://www.prado.com/~iris
Cortisone shots didn’t work for me, though, and I ultimately had to have a debridement of the > joint.
And CindyR wants to know: ‘"debridement" – does that mean that your shoulder joint is getting a divorce?
> Cortisone shots didn’t work for me, though, and I ultimately had to have a > debridement of the > joint. > And CindyR wants to know: > ‘"debridement" – does that mean that your shoulder joint is getting a > divorce?
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Mary: Michele here. When I as first diagnosis with RA the pain in my shoulder was unbelievable. Many times in the middle of the night I would try to roll over and I was unable to lift my left shoulder unless I physically moved it with my right hand. Best of Luck Michele
> Mary: > Michele here. When I as first diagnosis with RA the pain in my shoulder was > unbelievable. Many times in the middle of the night I would try to roll over > and I was unable to lift my left shoulder unless I physically moved it with my > right hand. Best of Luck > Michele
Been there, done that, too. Harv
Mary, your lustpumpkin sure sounds like a keeper. Are you on anything besides the plaq? It can take months for it to work. Sarah L "Friends are those people who know the words to the song in your heart and sing them back to you when you have forgotten the words." (unattributed)
omigod, what a treasure your husband is! diane
He’s not my husband, but that’s okay. We aren’t planning that. We’re just *partners*, we hope for life. And I never let a day go by without remembering what a treasure he is. Thanks for noticing Mary – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->omigod, what a treasure your husband is! >diane
Well mine is my husband and he’s one of these too. When things got so god awful bad I wanted to die he said "Things change–I didn’t get a warranty with you" and a few days later–"if it becomes necessary I’ve figured out what we have to do to make a wheelchair work in this house". This is with breakfast in bed every time he is here in the morning and just the plain caring I get from him every day. Some are real treasurers. — Ruada Appropriate, adequate, and ongoing pain relief for all who suffer–even in the Last Frontier of Alaska.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> He’s not my husband, but that’s okay. We aren’t planning that. We’re > just *partners*, we hope for life. > And I never let a day go by without remembering what a treasure he is. > Thanks for noticing > Mary >omigod, what a treasure your husband is! >diane
>Well mine is my husband and he’s one of these too. When things got so god >awful bad I wanted to die he said "Things change–I didn’t get a warranty >with you" and a few days later–"if it becomes necessary I’ve figured out >what we have to do to make a wheelchair work in this house". This is with >breakfast in bed every time he is here in the morning and just the plain >caring I get from him every day. Some are real treasurers.
Even as I was reading this — honestly — he just wandered into my room with a Sierra Nevada Porter. I like beer, he *hates* it. He just happened to think I might want one. I took it from him gratefully, and he stopped to open it for me first (twist offs are hard). I’m so grateful to have someone like him in my life. So many people have lovers/partners/spouses who aren’t supportive at all. RA is hard enough without having the burden of an uncaring mate. Mary http://www.prado.com/~iris
>So many people >have lovers/partners/spouses who aren’t supportive at all. RA is hard >enough without having the burden of an uncaring mate.
And some have no lover/partner/spouse. You are very lucky, Mary. Best regards,
>He’s not my husband, … I never let a day go by without remembering what a treasure he is. >Thanks for noticing
Does he have a brother??? Rose
>>He’s not my husband, … I never let a day go by without remembering what a treasure he is. >Thanks for noticing >Does he have a brother??? >Rose
*giggle* He’s got a very nice sister and a *wonderful* mom. Hey, he’s far from perfect! (as am I) We’re just a good match. I was joking with him last night about warranties. I said, "I might have a warranty, wanna take me back and exchange me for someone who’s joints work?" He said, "Yeah!" then played like he was at the store: "Can I switch this for one with working joints? Oh and while you’re at it, got any with *fashion sense*?" (My lack of fashion sense, as well as his, are not to be underestimated 
and we both know it.) It’s fun to be able to laugh out loud, knowing he’d never trade me in Mary http://www.prado.com/~iris
>Mary, your lustpumpkin sure sounds like a keeper. Are you on anything besides >the plaq? It can take months for it to work.
I’m on naproxen, too, and synthroid for my hashimoto’s thyroiditis. Because I have so little inflammation, my doc wants to start slow and conservative, she says, but I’ve got *pain* — just not puffy pain. Mary http://www.prado.com/~iris
I’ve been feeling so icky lately. I’ve only been on Plaquenil for 3 weeks, and it’s *clearly* not working yet. I’m being patient, but each day hurts more than the day before. And today I was just feeling cruddy this morning. After my hot morning "loosening up" bath, I was standing in my room in my robe, and my lustpumpkin came in behind with my hairbrush, and started brushing my hair for me. I can still do it myself, but it was a nice treat. He doesn’t do it very often. Then he got a dry towel and squeezed some more water out, and kept brushing. I got all teary eyed and told him I was almost uncomfortable letting him do it now, because I might not be able to do it later and might *need* him to — I didn’t want him to get tired of brushing my hair before I needed him to do it. He said, "Oh good, then I’ll just have an excuse to brush your hair every day." I really don’t know what I’d do without him. He’s one of the most caring people I’ve ever met. There — I vented. Mary http://www.prado.com/~iris
Hi Mary, With lots of people, it takes as much as 3 months for plaquenil to kick in. If your feeling bad gets to a point that seems excessive to you, call you RD and tell the doc how things are and ask for something to make your day to day life better. I will be honest with you in that allot of peoples illness is not controlled by Plaq alone and another damard has to be added to it. Some doctors are a little slow IMO to control the disease. Make sure your doctor is fully informed and expect the doctor to help you with what you have. The old saying about the squeaking wheel is so true and too many people suffer too long while things are going on in their joints that could be controlled. Harv – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I’ve been feeling so icky lately. I’ve only been on Plaquenil for 3 > weeks, and it’s *clearly* not working yet. I’m being patient, but each > day hurts more than the day before. And today I was just feeling > cruddy this morning. > After my hot morning "loosening up" bath, I was standing in my room in > my robe, and my lustpumpkin came in behind with my hairbrush, and > started brushing my hair for me. I can still do it myself, but it was > a nice treat. He doesn’t do it very often. Then he got a dry towel and > squeezed some more water out, and kept brushing. > I got all teary eyed and told him I was almost uncomfortable letting > him do it now, because I might not be able to do it later and might > *need* him to — I didn’t want him to get tired of brushing my hair > before I needed him to do it. > He said, "Oh good, then I’ll just have an excuse to brush your hair > every day." > I really don’t know what I’d do without him. He’s one of the most > caring people I’ve ever met. > There — I vented. > Mary > http://www.prado.com/~iris
You might want to check the discussion forums at Johns Hopkins University. You should be able to find some good info there. http://www.hopkins-arthritis.com/cgi-bin/patients/board.cgi -Chuck – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have started a journey that has me totally confused. My internist thought > I had fibromylagia. She sent me to a Rheumatologist. He seemed very good > and did lots of tests. Blood work, x-rays, bone density scan and such. The > results came back as follows: Sed rate normal, no RA antibodies, shows > thyroid antibodies… bone density test shows spine ok but hip moderate to > severe bone degradation. So I was told I has Hashimoto’s thyroiditis. Told > that the muscle aches, fatigue etc could be inflammation from that. I am > taking synthroid. I am taking Celebrex 400 mg per day, calcium, flexeril to > sleep, and he added planquril 200 mg. I was told that I needed eye exam for > taking the planquril so I made appointment but on the referral it was > written poly arthritis but I can’t even figure out what that is. Help! > What is this, where can I find info, what more information do I need to get > from rheumy…. I am confused and wondering what is next???? Any help > would be appreciated. Thanks > Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis is also known as ‘autoimmune thyroiditis’ and it > is not uncommon for those with this disease to develop other autoimmune > diseases such as forms of inflammatory arthritis. For a primer go to: > http://thyroid.about.com/health/thyroid/msub4.htm > The Thyroid Society home page is at: > http://www.the-thyroid-society.org/ > As to the poly arthritis, this is a generic term meaning inflammation of > several joints together. You are going to have to get your RD > (Rheumatologist) to be more specific as to which form of arthritis he > feels that you have. In the mean time visit these two sites which will > give you a great start on your education into Arthritis. > http://www.arthritis.co.za/Default.htm > http://www.arthritiswebsite.com/ > Welcome to ASA, I have been told that there is an unofficial three > disease limit and you’re at two already, so don’t get the flu. > Hope these links help, > JDShine
Before you buy.
>I have heard of polymyalgia, perhaps that is what he is referring to. >Jeannette > http://www.arthritis.co.za/ good general resource for info on arthritis > I too can find very little on Poly arthritis–maybe it is misspelled or >more > commonly called something else? I am sure others will respond too.
Polyarthritis means it involves five or more joints I do beleive. Keep Smilin’ ~Krissy Akron, Ohio "Knowledge and Education-the next best thing to a cure." http://www.arthritiswebsite.com Empowering the arthritis community.
>Polyarthritis means it involves five or more joints I do beleive.
i think krissy’s right. if it involves just a coupla joints it’s called pauci (spelling??) arthritis. i would say most of us here have the poly variety. diane
> And of great > importance–do not let the doctors intimidate you–if you do not understand > say so–ask if they could please try explaining it a different way. Take > notes—if possible while you are actually talking to the doctor. If not > then stop in the waiting room on your way out and make yourself a list of > what the doctor said. Also make a list and take it with you of questions > and the things you want to discus
Lyla, this is great advice! I just learned how to do it and it gives you a wonderful sense of empowerment. Blessings, Donna — Donna H No dream is too big, no dreamer too small Unknown Before you buy.
http://www.arthritis.co.za/ good general resource for info on arthritis I too can find very little on Poly arthritis–maybe it is misspelled or more commonly called something else? I am sure others will respond too. I too have the Hasimoto’s thyroiditis and my RD is who says fibromylagia, along with degenerative disk disease, psoriatic arthritis, secondary Sjogren’s Syndrome most of which have been misdiagnosed and untreated for 20+ years–good luck on your search for information. And of great importance–do not let the doctors intimidate you–if you do not understand say so–ask if they could please try explaining it a different way. Take notes—if possible while you are actually talking to the doctor. If not then stop in the waiting room on your way out and make yourself a list of what the doctor said. Also make a list and take it with you of questions and the things you want to discuss.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have started a journey that has me totally confused. My internist thought > I had fibromylagia. She sent me to a Rheumatologist. He seemed very good > and did lots of tests. Blood work, x-rays, bone density scan and such. The > results came back as follows: Sed rate normal, no RA antibodies, shows > thyroid antibodies… bone density test shows spine ok but hip moderate to > severe bone degradation. So I was told I has Hashimoto’s thyroiditis. Told > that the muscle aches, fatigue etc could be inflammation from that. I am > taking synthroid. I am taking Celebrex 400 mg per day, calcium, flexeril to > sleep, and he added planquril 200 mg. I was told that I needed eye exam for > taking the planquril so I made appointment but on the referral it was > written poly arthritis but I can’t even figure out what that is. Help! > What is this, where can I find info, what more information do I need to get > from rheumy…. I am confused and wondering what is next???? Any help > would be appreciated. Thanks
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I have started a journey that has me totally confused. My internist thought > I had fibromylagia. She sent me to a Rheumatologist. He seemed very good > and did lots of tests. Blood work, x-rays, bone density scan and such. The > results came back as follows: Sed rate normal, no RA antibodies, shows > thyroid antibodies… bone density test shows spine ok but hip moderate to > severe bone degradation. So I was told I has Hashimoto’s thyroiditis. Told > that the muscle aches, fatigue etc could be inflammation from that. I am > taking synthroid. I am taking Celebrex 400 mg per day, calcium, flexeril to > sleep, and he added planquril 200 mg. I was told that I needed eye exam for > taking the planquril so I made appointment but on the referral it was > written poly arthritis but I can’t even figure out what that is. Help! > What is this, where can I find info, what more information do I need to get > from rheumy…. I am confused and wondering what is next???? Any help > would be appreciated. Thanks
Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis is also known as ‘autoimmune thyroiditis’ and it is not uncommon for those with this disease to develop other autoimmune diseases such as forms of inflammatory arthritis. For a primer go to: http://thyroid.about.com/health/thyroid/msub4.htm The Thyroid Society home page is at: http://www.the-thyroid-society.org/ As to the poly arthritis, this is a generic term meaning inflammation of several joints together. You are going to have to get your RD (Rheumatologist) to be more specific as to which form of arthritis he feels that you have. In the mean time visit these two sites which will give you a great start on your education into Arthritis. http://www.arthritis.co.za/Default.htm http://www.arthritiswebsite.com/ Welcome to ASA, I have been told that there is an unofficial three disease limit and you’re at two already, so don’t get the flu. Hope these links help, JDShine
I have heard of polymyalgia, perhaps that is what he is referring to. Jeannette – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > http://www.arthritis.co.za/ good general resource for info on arthritis > I too can find very little on Poly arthritis–maybe it is misspelled or more > commonly called something else? I am sure others will respond too. I too > have the Hasimoto’s thyroiditis and my RD is who says fibromylagia, along > with degenerative disk disease, psoriatic arthritis, secondary Sjogren’s > Syndrome most of which have been misdiagnosed and untreated for 20+ > years–good luck on your search for information. And of great > importance–do not let the doctors intimidate you–if you do not understand > say so–ask if they could please try explaining it a different way. Take > notes—if possible while you are actually talking to the doctor. If not > then stop in the waiting room on your way out and make yourself a list of > what the doctor said. Also make a list and take it with you of questions > and the things you want to discuss. > I have started a journey that has me totally confused. My internist > thought > I had fibromylagia. She sent me to a Rheumatologist. He seemed very good > and did lots of tests. Blood work, x-rays, bone density scan and such. > The > results came back as follows: Sed rate normal, no RA antibodies, shows > thyroid antibodies… bone density test shows spine ok but hip moderate to > severe bone degradation. So I was told I has Hashimoto’s thyroiditis. > Told > that the muscle aches, fatigue etc could be inflammation from that. I am > taking synthroid. I am taking Celebrex 400 mg per day, calcium, flexeril > to > sleep, and he added planquril 200 mg. I was told that I needed eye exam > for > taking the planquril so I made appointment but on the referral it was > written poly arthritis but I can’t even figure out what that is. Help! > What is this, where can I find info, what more information do I need to > get > from rheumy…. I am confused and wondering what is next???? Any help > would be appreciated. Thanks
I have started a journey that has me totally confused. My internist thought I had fibromylagia. She sent me to a Rheumatologist. He seemed very good and did lots of tests. Blood work, x-rays, bone density scan and such. The results came back as follows: Sed rate normal, no RA antibodies, shows thyroid antibodies… bone density test shows spine ok but hip moderate to severe bone degradation. So I was told I has Hashimoto’s thyroiditis. Told that the muscle aches, fatigue etc could be inflammation from that. I am taking synthroid. I am taking Celebrex 400 mg per day, calcium, flexeril to sleep, and he added planquril 200 mg. I was told that I needed eye exam for taking the planquril so I made appointment but on the referral it was written poly arthritis but I can’t even figure out what that is. Help! What is this, where can I find info, what more information do I need to get from rheumy…. I am confused and wondering what is next???? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
Say a little prayer for me I’m heading into surgery So whatever you may believe In the powers that be Say a little prayer for me. ;o) My thyroiditis continued to bother me and the lump on the right side has grown (or at least never got smaller after they did that needle biopsy in November). Even though they all don’t think it’s cancer, it’s the pain and the fact I can’t do anything too strenuous without my neck hurting. So I bit the bullet and made the appt. to have surgery. So today, at 12:30pm PDT I head to the hospital with surgery scheduled at 1:30pm. Best case scenario I come home tonight, but I’ve got till 11:30am tomorrow morning before I’m even considered an "in-patient". When K30 gets more news she’ll pass it along. I’ll be back in no time, so you all be good now! ) See my ponds thru the seasons: http://home.earthlink.net/~alanjordan1/jjspond/index.html ~Keep ‘em Wet!~ ~jan~ Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a Remove Z to E-mail
Nothing but good thoughts for Jan. Ed in Chicago
jan–best wishes! mad — "We are all born mad. Some remain so." Irish playwright Samuel Beckett
best wishes, jan, and a speedy recovery! mad —
| |6pm PST | |Just got a call from Jan’s DH and she is |doing fine and may be home late this evening, or |first thing tomorrow morning. | |Hopefully we’ll have a nice day soon so she |can sit by the pond and recover! | Thats great to hear. Tell her hi from all us pond people. Sandra :>)
Jan, It is evening on the West coast, I didn’t read your post until after you were already out of surgery. However, I am sending good thoughts, and wishing you great results. — -Wendy in CA – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Say a little prayer for me >I’m heading into surgery >So whatever you may believe >In the powers that be >Say a little prayer for me. ;o) >My thyroiditis continued to bother me and the lump on the right side has >grown (or at least never got smaller after they did that needle biopsy in >November). Even though they all don’t think it’s cancer, it’s the pain and >the fact I can’t do anything too strenuous without my neck hurting. So I >bit the bullet and made the appt. to have surgery. So today, at 12:30pm PDT >I head to the hospital with surgery scheduled at 1:30pm. Best case scenario >I come home tonight, but I’ve got till 11:30am tomorrow morning before I’m >even considered an "in-patient". >When K30 gets more news she’ll pass it along. >I’ll be back in no time, so you all be good now! ) >See my ponds thru the seasons: >http://home.earthlink.net/~alanjordan1/jjspond/index.html > ~Keep ‘em Wet!~ >~jan~ Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a > Remove Z to E-mail
I’ll be thinking of you. Greg – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Say a little prayer for me >I’m heading into surgery >So whatever you may believe >In the powers that be >Say a little prayer for me. ;o) >My thyroiditis continued to bother me and the lump on the right side has >grown (or at least never got smaller after they did that needle biopsy in >November). Even though they all don’t think it’s cancer, it’s the pain and >the fact I can’t do anything too strenuous without my neck hurting. So I >bit the bullet and made the appt. to have surgery. So today, at 12:30pm PDT >I head to the hospital with surgery scheduled at 1:30pm. Best case scenario >I come home tonight, but I’ve got till 11:30am tomorrow morning before I’m >even considered an "in-patient". >When K30 gets more news she’ll pass it along. >I’ll be back in no time, so you all be good now! ) >See my ponds thru the seasons: >http://home.earthlink.net/~alanjordan1/jjspond/index.html > ~Keep ‘em Wet!~ >~jan~ Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a > Remove Z to E-mail
you are in my thoughts and prayers Jan. Everything will turn our fine. Karen Houston, TX Zone 9a Member Internet Pond Society – IPS Visit my pond at http://members.aol.com/kmam1/MyPond/MyPond.html and My Art Studio, specializing in Pet Portraits at http://members.aol.com/kmmstudios/K.M.Studios/K.M.Studios.html
6pm PST Just got a call from Jan’s DH and she is doing fine and may be home late this evening, or first thing tomorrow morning. Hopefully we’ll have a nice day soon so she can sit by the pond and recover! ~k30~ and the watergardening labradors see the girls at http://www.daydreamergardens.com/2_level/articles/dog_tips.htm "… I’ve also proved, by actual test, a wet dog is the lovingest." Ogden Nash
>Say a little prayer for me >I’m heading into surgery
Jan, so sorry to hear that you had to go in for surgery. I hope that takes care of the problem once and for all. I will say a prayer for you, or maybe two. My very best wishes for a speedy recovery. Gerri
>Just got a call from Jan’s DH and she is >doing fine
Thanks so much for the good news. She came come home and recover and relax by the pond. Gerri
All the best to you Jan. Will be praying. Randy in Aloha — see my web page at: http://homestead.dejanews.com/user.randyinaloha/index.html – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Say a little prayer for me > I’m heading into surgery > So whatever you may believe > In the powers that be > Say a little prayer for me. ;o) > My thyroiditis continued to bother me and the lump on the right side has > grown (or at least never got smaller after they did that needle biopsy in > November). Even though they all don’t think it’s cancer, it’s the pain and > the fact I can’t do anything too strenuous without my neck hurting. So I > bit the bullet and made the appt. to have surgery. So today, at 12:30pm PDT > I head to the hospital with surgery scheduled at 1:30pm. Best case scenario > I come home tonight, but I’ve got till 11:30am tomorrow morning before I’m > even considered an "in-patient". > When K30 gets more news she’ll pass it along. > I’ll be back in no time, so you all be good now! ) > See my ponds thru the seasons: > http://home.earthlink.net/~alanjordan1/jjspond/index.html > ~Keep ‘em Wet!~ > ~jan~ Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a > Remove Z to E-mail
Hey there Jan. I hope that everything goes well for you! My thoughts are with you. — Rich a.k.a. WelshIce ICQ # 18823443
Thanks to each and everyone! As most people told me it wasn’t so bad. Heck, the best part was being under, I even remember having a dream about koi club when they got me awake. The only tough part was 12 hrs. afterwards as my body was shaking (and I do mean shaking) off the anesthesia. That lasted about 12 hrs. but after that my appetite returned and I started feeling better. Came home Wednesday at 10am and hubby will be taking care of me for the next couple of days, so I will be well pampered. ;o) ~ jan
>Came home Wednesday at 10am and hubby will be taking care of me for >the next couple of days, so I will be well pampered.
Hey Jan, hubby " taking care" of you and being "well pampered" aren’t necessarily synomymous! Ed in Chicago
sounds like you’re feeling better. So glad, hope this ends the problem for good! Karen writes: >Thanks to each and everyone! As most people told me it wasn’t so bad. Heck, >the best part was being under, I even remember having a dream about koi >club when they got me awake. The only tough part was 12 hrs. afterwards as >my body was shaking (and I do mean shaking) off the anesthesia. That lasted >about 12 hrs. but after that my appetite returned and I started feeling >better. Came home Wednesday at 10am and hubby will be taking care of me for >the next couple of days, so I will be well pampered. ;o) ~ jan
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Happy for you Jan, but, "hubby" take care of you part…… best wishes. Randy in Aloha — see my web page at: http://homestead.dejanews.com/user.randyinaloha/index.html – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Thanks to each and everyone! As most people told me it wasn’t so bad. Heck, > the best part was being under, I even remember having a dream about koi > club when they got me awake. The only tough part was 12 hrs. afterwards as > my body was shaking (and I do mean shaking) off the anesthesia. That lasted > about 12 hrs. but after that my appetite returned and I started feeling > better. Came home Wednesday at 10am and hubby will be taking care of me for > the next couple of days, so I will be well pampered. ;o) ~ jan
Hi Jan, Glad to hear you are home and healing! Rest up and get your strength back but remember it’s not to tiring to hit those keys. Will you now be the source of sick humor? I guess if the sickness is gone the source will be depleted. Now for another entry in the saga of the Pond Goddess of the North. Bonnie NJ http://www.users.fast.net/~maebe/index.htm – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Thanks to each and everyone! As most people told me it wasn’t so bad. Heck, > the best part was being under, I even remember having a dream about koi > club when they got me awake. The only tough part was 12 hrs. afterwards as > my body was shaking (and I do mean shaking) off the anesthesia. That lasted > about 12 hrs. but after that my appetite returned and I started feeling > better. Came home Wednesday at 10am and hubby will be taking care of me for > the next couple of days, so I will be well pampered. ;o) ~ jan
>Will you now be the source of sick humor?
Gee, I always thought my humor was a little sick. <giggle> Yup. It’s easy to hit these keys, but with the pain killer it’s hard to read, so if my typing is weird for a while at least I have the pain killer to blame (instead of my usual poor typing & proofreading skills). ) ~ jan
>Happy for you Jan, but, "hubby" take care of you part…… best wishes. >Randy in Aloha
Oh, you guys. ;o) He did mention that it would be easier for me if he were sick as I at least wouldn’t have to ask how to do the household stuff. But I am serious I am getting pampered. If it wasn’t for ponding I’d play this sick stuff for all it’s worth, but I do want to get back to ponding. ) ~ jan
>>Came home Wednesday at 10am and hubby will be taking care of me for >the next couple of days, so I will be well pampered. >Hey Jan, hubby " taking care" of you and being "well pampered" aren’t >necessarily synomymous! >Ed in Chicago
Well with us it is. ;o) When I first got home the first thing he did (with some helpful advice from his mom) was get me something solid to eat. Poached eggs and toast. ~ jan
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Say a little prayer for me I’m heading into surgery So whatever you may believe In the powers that be Say a little prayer for me. ;o) My thyroiditis continued to bother me and the lump on the right side has grown (or at least never got smaller after they did that needle biopsy in November). Even though they all don’t think it’s cancer, it’s the pain and the fact I can’t do anything too strenuous without my neck hurting. So I bit the bullet and made the appt. to have surgery. So today, at 12:30pm PDT I head to the hospital with surgery scheduled at 1:30pm. Best case scenario I come home tonight, but I’ve got till 11:30am tomorrow morning before I’m even considered an "in-patient". When K30 gets more news she’ll pass it along. I’ll be back in no time, so you all be good now! ) See my ponds thru the seasons: http://home.earthlink.net/~alanjordan1/jjspond/index.html ~Keep ‘em Wet!~ ~jan~ Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a Remove Z to E-mail
Nothing but good thoughts for Jan. Ed in Chicago
jan–best wishes! mad — "We are all born mad. Some remain so." Irish playwright Samuel Beckett
best wishes, jan, and a speedy recovery! mad —
| |6pm PST | |Just got a call from Jan’s DH and she is |doing fine and may be home late this evening, or |first thing tomorrow morning. | |Hopefully we’ll have a nice day soon so she |can sit by the pond and recover! | Thats great to hear. Tell her hi from all us pond people. Sandra :>)
Jan, It is evening on the West coast, I didn’t read your post until after you were already out of surgery. However, I am sending good thoughts, and wishing you great results. — -Wendy in CA – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Say a little prayer for me >I’m heading into surgery >So whatever you may believe >In the powers that be >Say a little prayer for me. ;o) >My thyroiditis continued to bother me and the lump on the right side has >grown (or at least never got smaller after they did that needle biopsy in >November). Even though they all don’t think it’s cancer, it’s the pain and >the fact I can’t do anything too strenuous without my neck hurting. So I >bit the bullet and made the appt. to have surgery. So today, at 12:30pm PDT >I head to the hospital with surgery scheduled at 1:30pm. Best case scenario >I come home tonight, but I’ve got till 11:30am tomorrow morning before I’m >even considered an "in-patient". >When K30 gets more news she’ll pass it along. >I’ll be back in no time, so you all be good now! ) >See my ponds thru the seasons: >http://home.earthlink.net/~alanjordan1/jjspond/index.html > ~Keep ‘em Wet!~ >~jan~ Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a > Remove Z to E-mail
I’ll be thinking of you. Greg – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Say a little prayer for me >I’m heading into surgery >So whatever you may believe >In the powers that be >Say a little prayer for me. ;o) >My thyroiditis continued to bother me and the lump on the right side has >grown (or at least never got smaller after they did that needle biopsy in >November). Even though they all don’t think it’s cancer, it’s the pain and >the fact I can’t do anything too strenuous without my neck hurting. So I >bit the bullet and made the appt. to have surgery. So today, at 12:30pm PDT >I head to the hospital with surgery scheduled at 1:30pm. Best case scenario >I come home tonight, but I’ve got till 11:30am tomorrow morning before I’m >even considered an "in-patient". >When K30 gets more news she’ll pass it along. >I’ll be back in no time, so you all be good now! ) >See my ponds thru the seasons: >http://home.earthlink.net/~alanjordan1/jjspond/index.html > ~Keep ‘em Wet!~ >~jan~ Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a > Remove Z to E-mail
you are in my thoughts and prayers Jan. Everything will turn our fine. Karen Houston, TX Zone 9a Member Internet Pond Society – IPS Visit my pond at http://members.aol.com/kmam1/MyPond/MyPond.html and My Art Studio, specializing in Pet Portraits at http://members.aol.com/kmmstudios/K.M.Studios/K.M.Studios.html
6pm PST Just got a call from Jan’s DH and she is doing fine and may be home late this evening, or first thing tomorrow morning. Hopefully we’ll have a nice day soon so she can sit by the pond and recover! ~k30~ and the watergardening labradors see the girls at http://www.daydreamergardens.com/2_level/articles/dog_tips.htm "… I’ve also proved, by actual test, a wet dog is the lovingest." Ogden Nash
>Say a little prayer for me >I’m heading into surgery
Jan, so sorry to hear that you had to go in for surgery. I hope that takes care of the problem once and for all. I will say a prayer for you, or maybe two. My very best wishes for a speedy recovery. Gerri
>Just got a call from Jan’s DH and she is >doing fine
Thanks so much for the good news. She came come home and recover and relax by the pond. Gerri
All the best to you Jan. Will be praying. Randy in Aloha — see my web page at: http://homestead.dejanews.com/user.randyinaloha/index.html – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Say a little prayer for me > I’m heading into surgery > So whatever you may believe > In the powers that be > Say a little prayer for me. ;o) > My thyroiditis continued to bother me and the lump on the right side has > grown (or at least never got smaller after they did that needle biopsy in > November). Even though they all don’t think it’s cancer, it’s the pain and > the fact I can’t do anything too strenuous without my neck hurting. So I > bit the bullet and made the appt. to have surgery. So today, at 12:30pm PDT > I head to the hospital with surgery scheduled at 1:30pm. Best case scenario > I come home tonight, but I’ve got till 11:30am tomorrow morning before I’m > even considered an "in-patient". > When K30 gets more news she’ll pass it along. > I’ll be back in no time, so you all be good now! ) > See my ponds thru the seasons: > http://home.earthlink.net/~alanjordan1/jjspond/index.html > ~Keep ‘em Wet!~ > ~jan~ Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a > Remove Z to E-mail
Hey there Jan. I hope that everything goes well for you! My thoughts are with you. — Rich a.k.a. WelshIce ICQ # 18823443
Thanks to each and everyone! As most people told me it wasn’t so bad. Heck, the best part was being under, I even remember having a dream about koi club when they got me awake. The only tough part was 12 hrs. afterwards as my body was shaking (and I do mean shaking) off the anesthesia. That lasted about 12 hrs. but after that my appetite returned and I started feeling better. Came home Wednesday at 10am and hubby will be taking care of me for the next couple of days, so I will be well pampered. ;o) ~ jan
>Came home Wednesday at 10am and hubby will be taking care of me for >the next couple of days, so I will be well pampered.
Hey Jan, hubby " taking care" of you and being "well pampered" aren’t necessarily synomymous! Ed in Chicago
sounds like you’re feeling better. So glad, hope this ends the problem for good! Karen writes: >Thanks to each and everyone! As most people told me it wasn’t so bad. Heck, >the best part was being under, I even remember having a dream about koi >club when they got me awake. The only tough part was 12 hrs. afterwards as >my body was shaking (and I do mean shaking) off the anesthesia. That lasted >about 12 hrs. but after that my appetite returned and I started feeling >better. Came home Wednesday at 10am and hubby will be taking care of me for >the next couple of days, so I will be well pampered. ;o) ~ jan
Houston, TX Zone 9a Member Internet Pond Society – IPS Visit my pond at http://members.aol.com/kmam1/MyPond/MyPond.html and My Art Studio, specializing in Pet Portraits at http://members.aol.com/kmmstudios/K.M.Studios/K.M.Studios.html
Happy for you Jan, but, "hubby" take care of you part…… best wishes. Randy in Aloha — see my web page at: http://homestead.dejanews.com/user.randyinaloha/index.html – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Thanks to each and everyone! As most people told me it wasn’t so bad. Heck, > the best part was being under, I even remember having a dream about koi > club when they got me awake. The only tough part was 12 hrs. afterwards as > my body was shaking (and I do mean shaking) off the anesthesia. That lasted > about 12 hrs. but after that my appetite returned and I started feeling > better. Came home Wednesday at 10am and hubby will be taking care of me for > the next couple of days, so I will be well pampered. ;o) ~ jan
Hi Jan, Glad to hear you are home and healing! Rest up and get your strength back but remember it’s not to tiring to hit those keys. Will you now be the source of sick humor? I guess if the sickness is gone the source will be depleted. Now for another entry in the saga of the Pond Goddess of the North. Bonnie NJ http://www.users.fast.net/~maebe/index.htm – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Thanks to each and everyone! As most people told me it wasn’t so bad. Heck, > the best part was being under, I even remember having a dream about koi > club when they got me awake. The only tough part was 12 hrs. afterwards as > my body was shaking (and I do mean shaking) off the anesthesia. That lasted > about 12 hrs. but after that my appetite returned and I started feeling > better. Came home Wednesday at 10am and hubby will be taking care of me for > the next couple of days, so I will be well pampered. ;o) ~ jan
>Will you now be the source of sick humor?
Gee, I always thought my humor was a little sick. <giggle> Yup. It’s easy to hit these keys, but with the pain killer it’s hard to read, so if my typing is weird for a while at least I have the pain killer to blame (instead of my usual poor typing & proofreading skills). ) ~ jan
>Happy for you Jan, but, "hubby" take care of you part…… best wishes. >Randy in Aloha
Oh, you guys. ;o) He did mention that it would be easier for me if he were sick as I at least wouldn’t have to ask how to do the household stuff. But I am serious I am getting pampered. If it wasn’t for ponding I’d play this sick stuff for all it’s worth, but I do want to get back to ponding. ) ~ jan
>>Came home Wednesday at 10am and hubby will be taking care of me for >the next couple of days, so I will be well pampered. >Hey Jan, hubby " taking care" of you and being "well pampered" aren’t >necessarily synomymous! >Ed in Chicago
Well with us it is. ;o) When I first got home the first thing he did (with some helpful advice from his mom) was get me something solid to eat. Poached eggs and toast. ~ jan
: Thanks to each and everyone! As most people told me it wasn’t so bad. Heck, : the best part was being under, I even remember having a dream about koi : club when they got me awake. Sure glad you’re doing ok! ) — Carol… The frugal ponder
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A water change would freshen the pond up. If the pump is working it can pump the water out for you . If not find a kid in the neighborhood to bail out some of the water and maybe scoop the leaves out. Add a bottle of muck busting bacteria to eat up some of the debrie. Good Luck! szplit & schnauzer
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->My health hasn’t been the best the last couple months and I neglected doing any >pond maintenance. First the pump/filter unit stopped working, then the fall >leaves settled on the bottom and caused my once beautiful 3X3X2.5 ‘ pond to be >transformed into a smelly muck hole. >What can I do to improve the matter short of hauling 5 gallon buckets of water >with my still somewhat frail body. I don’t have any help and money is tight. >Would the addition of more waterplants help at all? >Are bleach or chlorine out of the question? >I’ve got to kill the putrid stench first and then worry about the rest come >spring. I’m having doubts I’ll ever enjoy this hobby again. >Any advise is appreciated. >Many thanks, >Elsie B
Changing the water really is the way to go. Pump the water out of the pond with your regular pump by running the hose onto the lawn or garden. The dregs can be taken out using a wet & dry shop vac. I buy shop vacs at auctions for about $15 and use them until they burn up. A local garden club can usually help you find a person to help with the heavy stuff. where do you live? I would help if you are close. Ted
My health hasn’t been the best the last couple months and I neglected doing any pond maintenance. First the pump/filter unit stopped working, then the fall leaves settled on the bottom and caused my once beautiful 3X3X2.5 ‘ pond to be transformed into a smelly muck hole. What can I do to improve the matter short of hauling 5 gallon buckets of water with my still somewhat frail body. I don’t have any help and money is tight. Would the addition of more waterplants help at all? Are bleach or chlorine out of the question? I’ve got to kill the putrid stench first and then worry about the rest come spring. I’m having doubts I’ll ever enjoy this hobby again. Any advise is appreciated. Many thanks, Elsie B
>My health hasn’t been the best the last couple months and I neglected doing any >pond maintenance. First the pump/filter unit stopped working, then the fall >leaves settled on the bottom and caused my once beautiful 3X3X2.5 ‘ pond to be >transformed into a smelly muck hole. >What can I do to improve the matter short of hauling 5 gallon buckets of water >with my still somewhat frail body. I don’t have any help and money is tight.
Elsie B, I can really sympathize as I slowly recover from a bout of thyroiditis. I highly recommend checking to see if there is a pond club or even a garden club in your area. These people love to adopt folks who need help with their ponds. Call around to the garden shops/nurseries. If you newspaper puts out a club section check that, though don’t think if you don’t see or hear something it’s not there. Another place to check is your Master Gardener office or County Extension who might have area club contacts. >Would the addition of more waterplants help at all?
Yes, yes, yes. >Are bleach or chlorine out of the question?
Yes, yes, yes, totally out of the question! Some C&S Aquaculture would probably help a lot check out this website www.pondguy.com >I’ve got to kill the putrid stench first and then worry about the rest come >spring. I’m having doubts I’ll ever enjoy this hobby again.
See my ponds thru the seasons: http://home.earthlink.net/~alanjordan1/jjspond/index.html ~Keep ‘em Wet!~ ~jan~ Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a Remove Z to E-mail
A water change would freshen the pond up. If the pump is working it can pump the water out for you . If not find a kid in the neighborhood to bail out some of the water and maybe scoop the leaves out. Add a bottle of muck busting bacteria to eat up some of the debrie. Good Luck! szplit & schnauzer
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->My health hasn’t been the best the last couple months and I neglected doing any >pond maintenance. First the pump/filter unit stopped working, then the fall >leaves settled on the bottom and caused my once beautiful 3X3X2.5 ‘ pond to be >transformed into a smelly muck hole. >What can I do to improve the matter short of hauling 5 gallon buckets of water >with my still somewhat frail body. I don’t have any help and money is tight. >Would the addition of more waterplants help at all? >Are bleach or chlorine out of the question? >I’ve got to kill the putrid stench first and then worry about the rest come >spring. I’m having doubts I’ll ever enjoy this hobby again. >Any advise is appreciated. >Many thanks, >Elsie B
Changing the water really is the way to go. Pump the water out of the pond with your regular pump by running the hose onto the lawn or garden. The dregs can be taken out using a wet & dry shop vac. I buy shop vacs at auctions for about $15 and use them until they burn up. A local garden club can usually help you find a person to help with the heavy stuff. where do you live? I would help if you are close. Ted
My health hasn’t been the best the last couple months and I neglected doing any pond maintenance. First the pump/filter unit stopped working, then the fall leaves settled on the bottom and caused my once beautiful 3X3X2.5 ‘ pond to be transformed into a smelly muck hole. What can I do to improve the matter short of hauling 5 gallon buckets of water with my still somewhat frail body. I don’t have any help and money is tight. Would the addition of more waterplants help at all? Are bleach or chlorine out of the question? I’ve got to kill the putrid stench first and then worry about the rest come spring. I’m having doubts I’ll ever enjoy this hobby again. Any advise is appreciated. Many thanks, Elsie B
>My health hasn’t been the best the last couple months and I neglected doing any >pond maintenance. First the pump/filter unit stopped working, then the fall >leaves settled on the bottom and caused my once beautiful 3X3X2.5 ‘ pond to be >transformed into a smelly muck hole. >What can I do to improve the matter short of hauling 5 gallon buckets of water >with my still somewhat frail body. I don’t have any help and money is tight.
Elsie B, I can really sympathize as I slowly recover from a bout of thyroiditis. I highly recommend checking to see if there is a pond club or even a garden club in your area. These people love to adopt folks who need help with their ponds. Call around to the garden shops/nurseries. If you newspaper puts out a club section check that, though don’t think if you don’t see or hear something it’s not there. Another place to check is your Master Gardener office or County Extension who might have area club contacts. >Would the addition of more waterplants help at all?
Yes, yes, yes. >Are bleach or chlorine out of the question?
Yes, yes, yes, totally out of the question! Some C&S Aquaculture would probably help a lot check out this website www.pondguy.com >I’ve got to kill the putrid stench first and then worry about the rest come >spring. I’m having doubts I’ll ever enjoy this hobby again.
See my ponds thru the seasons: http://home.earthlink.net/~alanjordan1/jjspond/index.html ~Keep ‘em Wet!~ ~jan~ Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a Remove Z to E-mail
Has anyone here ever had Hashimotos thryroiditis and gone on to have children? I have a 8 year old son and history of 17 miscarriages since then. I have been diagnosed with hashimotos and am hoping that is what is happening to me> Any feed back from someone diagoned and gone to full term would be very appreciated!!
– Mary Ann Ashby
>Has anyone here ever had Hashimotos thryroiditis and gone on to have >children? I have a 8 year old son and history of 17 miscarriages since then. >I have been diagnosed with hashimotos and am hoping that is what is happening >to me> Any feed back from someone diagoned and gone to full term would be >very appreciated!! >– >Mary Ann Ashby
If you’re treated with the right dose of thyroid, there’s no way your body can tell you have Hasimoto’s. Pregancy should be no problem. See a reproductive endocrinologist.