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I know this one comes up often enough, but I can’t see any posts on the subject on my server, and to save me time in Deja could somebody post a few links/experiences for me please – there is a chance Harpsie has this, I am told this is not that uncommon in cats with HCM like him. My vet needs to run more tests, but if they are positive she is contemplating tablets at this stage rather than an operation. Many thanks. Helen _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "The question is not, can they reason? Nor, can they talk? But, can they suffer?" (Jeremy Bentham, 1748-1832)
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>I know this one comes up often enough, >but I can’t see any posts on the subject on >my server, and to save me time in Deja >could somebody post a few >links/experiences for me please – there is >a chance Harpsie has this, I am told this >is not that uncommon in cats with HCM >like him. My vet needs to run more tests, >but if they are positive she is >contemplating tablets at this stage rather >than an operation.
Hi Helen, My newest addition was diagnosed with Hyperthyroidism, and received the Radioactive Iodine Therapy. If you have any questiions please feel free to e-mail me. Here are two good links that helped me: The Hyperthyroidism Page http://www.ccweb.net/marvistavet/html/default_thyroid.html http://www.radiocat.com Megan
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> I know this one comes up often enough, but I can’t see any posts on the > subject on my server, and to save me time in Deja could somebody post a few > links/experiences for me please – there is a chance Harpsie has this, I am > told this is not that uncommon in cats with HCM like him.
Helen, Hyperthyroidism causes myocardial hypertrophy that might be confused with HCM. Check thyroid concentration to rule out hyperthyroidism. Did you have an ECHO (Ultasounds) done? ECG/EKG (Electrocardiography) can not distinguish cardiomyopathy from hyperthyroidism or differentiate different forms of cardiomyopathy. I’d get T4 levels checked ASAP. Best wishes, Phil. — "A kitten, in the animal kingdom, is like a rosebud in a garden" Feline Healthcare: http://maxshouse.com My vet needs to – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> run more tests, but if they are positive she is contemplating tablets at > this stage rather than an operation. > Many thanks. > Helen > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > _ > "The question is not, can they reason? Nor, can they talk? But, can they > suffer?" (Jeremy Bentham, 1748-1832)
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Helen, Our little one was diagnosed about 2.5 years ago with Hyperthyroidism. He has been on Tapazole from the beginning. We know this is not a cure, but it has served him well for the time being. We will eventually have the radioactive iodine therapy. PeeWee is only 5 years old so that we are able to take our time in making the decision. Some say Tapazole has long term side effects, but fortunately PeeWee has done well. He is our terminal kitten making us laugh and smile everyday. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions. ^..^ – BSB
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> I know this one comes up often enough, but I can’t see any posts on the > subject on my server, and to save me time in Deja could somebody post a few > links/experiences for me please – there is a chance Harpsie has this, I am > told this is not that uncommon in cats with HCM like him. My vet needs to > run more tests, but if they are positive she is contemplating tablets at > this stage rather than an operation.
Two of our cats were hyper-thyroid, and both had radioactive iodine (I-131) therapy. Expensive!! In the case of the older cat, it was the only possible treatment — she was too ill for surgery, and could not tolerate tapezol. The therapy unmasked kidney disease, and she died 8 months after the treatment — but those were the healthiest, happiest 8 months of her 13 years. When the second cat developed hyperthyroidism a year later, we were wary, having learned (too late) that when kidney disease is already present it is made worse by the absence of thyroid hormone. So we tried tapezol; she could not tolerate it. For a variety of reasons, we did not want surgery (which, however, would have been much less costly than radio-iodine therapy). We took her to a specialist, who did a very thorough workup and determined, to the extent possible with on-site diagnostic tools, that her kidney function was OK. So she also had the I-131 treatment, and is doing fine 11 months later, although she does have to take thyroid hormone supplements daily.
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I know this one comes up often enough, but I can’t see any posts on the subject on my server, and to save me time in Deja could somebody post a few links/experiences for me please – there is a chance Harpsie has this, I am told this is not that uncommon in cats with HCM like him. My vet needs to run more tests, but if they are positive she is contemplating tablets at this stage rather than an operation. Many thanks. Helen _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "The question is not, can they reason? Nor, can they talk? But, can they suffer?" (Jeremy Bentham, 1748-1832)
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>I know this one comes up often enough, >but I can’t see any posts on the subject on >my server, and to save me time in Deja >could somebody post a few >links/experiences for me please – there is >a chance Harpsie has this, I am told this >is not that uncommon in cats with HCM >like him. My vet needs to run more tests, >but if they are positive she is >contemplating tablets at this stage rather >than an operation.
Hi Helen, My newest addition was diagnosed with Hyperthyroidism, and received the Radioactive Iodine Therapy. If you have any questiions please feel free to e-mail me. Here are two good links that helped me: The Hyperthyroidism Page http://www.ccweb.net/marvistavet/html/default_thyroid.html http://www.radiocat.com Megan
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> I know this one comes up often enough, but I can’t see any posts on the > subject on my server, and to save me time in Deja could somebody post a few > links/experiences for me please – there is a chance Harpsie has this, I am > told this is not that uncommon in cats with HCM like him.
Helen, Hyperthyroidism causes myocardial hypertrophy that might be confused with HCM. Check thyroid concentration to rule out hyperthyroidism. Did you have an ECHO (Ultasounds) done? ECG/EKG (Electrocardiography) can not distinguish cardiomyopathy from hyperthyroidism or differentiate different forms of cardiomyopathy. I’d get T4 levels checked ASAP. Best wishes, Phil. — "A kitten, in the animal kingdom, is like a rosebud in a garden" Feline Healthcare: http://maxshouse.com My vet needs to – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> run more tests, but if they are positive she is contemplating tablets at > this stage rather than an operation. > Many thanks. > Helen > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > _ > "The question is not, can they reason? Nor, can they talk? But, can they > suffer?" (Jeremy Bentham, 1748-1832)
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Helen, Our little one was diagnosed about 2.5 years ago with Hyperthyroidism. He has been on Tapazole from the beginning. We know this is not a cure, but it has served him well for the time being. We will eventually have the radioactive iodine therapy. PeeWee is only 5 years old so that we are able to take our time in making the decision. Some say Tapazole has long term side effects, but fortunately PeeWee has done well. He is our terminal kitten making us laugh and smile everyday. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions. ^..^ – BSB
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> I know this one comes up often enough, but I can’t see any posts on the > subject on my server, and to save me time in Deja could somebody post a few > links/experiences for me please – there is a chance Harpsie has this, I am > told this is not that uncommon in cats with HCM like him. My vet needs to > run more tests, but if they are positive she is contemplating tablets at > this stage rather than an operation.
Two of our cats were hyper-thyroid, and both had radioactive iodine (I-131) therapy. Expensive!! In the case of the older cat, it was the only possible treatment — she was too ill for surgery, and could not tolerate tapezol. The therapy unmasked kidney disease, and she died 8 months after the treatment — but those were the healthiest, happiest 8 months of her 13 years. When the second cat developed hyperthyroidism a year later, we were wary, having learned (too late) that when kidney disease is already present it is made worse by the absence of thyroid hormone. So we tried tapezol; she could not tolerate it. For a variety of reasons, we did not want surgery (which, however, would have been much less costly than radio-iodine therapy). We took her to a specialist, who did a very thorough workup and determined, to the extent possible with on-site diagnostic tools, that her kidney function was OK. So she also had the I-131 treatment, and is doing fine 11 months later, although she does have to take thyroid hormone supplements daily.
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I know this one comes up often enough, but I can’t see any posts on the subject on my server, and to save me time in Deja could somebody post a few links/experiences for me please – there is a chance Harpsie has this, I am told this is not that uncommon in cats with HCM like him. My vet needs to run more tests, but if they are positive she is contemplating tablets at this stage rather than an operation. Many thanks. Helen _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "The question is not, can they reason? Nor, can they talk? But, can they suffer?" (Jeremy Bentham, 1748-1832)
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>I know this one comes up often enough, >but I can’t see any posts on the subject on >my server, and to save me time in Deja >could somebody post a few >links/experiences for me please – there is >a chance Harpsie has this, I am told this >is not that uncommon in cats with HCM >like him. My vet needs to run more tests, >but if they are positive she is >contemplating tablets at this stage rather >than an operation.
Hi Helen, My newest addition was diagnosed with Hyperthyroidism, and received the Radioactive Iodine Therapy. If you have any questiions please feel free to e-mail me. Here are two good links that helped me: The Hyperthyroidism Page http://www.ccweb.net/marvistavet/html/default_thyroid.html http://www.radiocat.com Megan
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> I know this one comes up often enough, but I can’t see any posts on the > subject on my server, and to save me time in Deja could somebody post a few > links/experiences for me please – there is a chance Harpsie has this, I am > told this is not that uncommon in cats with HCM like him.
Helen, Hyperthyroidism causes myocardial hypertrophy that might be confused with HCM. Check thyroid concentration to rule out hyperthyroidism. Did you have an ECHO (Ultasounds) done? ECG/EKG (Electrocardiography) can not distinguish cardiomyopathy from hyperthyroidism or differentiate different forms of cardiomyopathy. I’d get T4 levels checked ASAP. Best wishes, Phil. — "A kitten, in the animal kingdom, is like a rosebud in a garden" Feline Healthcare: http://maxshouse.com My vet needs to – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> run more tests, but if they are positive she is contemplating tablets at > this stage rather than an operation. > Many thanks. > Helen > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > _ > "The question is not, can they reason? Nor, can they talk? But, can they > suffer?" (Jeremy Bentham, 1748-1832)
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Helen, Our little one was diagnosed about 2.5 years ago with Hyperthyroidism. He has been on Tapazole from the beginning. We know this is not a cure, but it has served him well for the time being. We will eventually have the radioactive iodine therapy. PeeWee is only 5 years old so that we are able to take our time in making the decision. Some say Tapazole has long term side effects, but fortunately PeeWee has done well. He is our terminal kitten making us laugh and smile everyday. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions. ^..^ – BSB
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> I know this one comes up often enough, but I can’t see any posts on the > subject on my server, and to save me time in Deja could somebody post a few > links/experiences for me please – there is a chance Harpsie has this, I am > told this is not that uncommon in cats with HCM like him. My vet needs to > run more tests, but if they are positive she is contemplating tablets at > this stage rather than an operation.
Two of our cats were hyper-thyroid, and both had radioactive iodine (I-131) therapy. Expensive!! In the case of the older cat, it was the only possible treatment — she was too ill for surgery, and could not tolerate tapezol. The therapy unmasked kidney disease, and she died 8 months after the treatment — but those were the healthiest, happiest 8 months of her 13 years. When the second cat developed hyperthyroidism a year later, we were wary, having learned (too late) that when kidney disease is already present it is made worse by the absence of thyroid hormone. So we tried tapezol; she could not tolerate it. For a variety of reasons, we did not want surgery (which, however, would have been much less costly than radio-iodine therapy). We took her to a specialist, who did a very thorough workup and determined, to the extent possible with on-site diagnostic tools, that her kidney function was OK. So she also had the I-131 treatment, and is doing fine 11 months later, although she does have to take thyroid hormone supplements daily.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I was always told that it was Lithium that could affect the thyroid! > > Lynda, > > I didn’t find any interaction between valproate and thyroxin in the > > literature. If you know something I don’t please advise; I’m trying to > > prepare a paper with /all/ this stuff in it, it’s scattered so badly > > throughout the profession that even the docs haven’t got it all. > > TNX. > > — > > dmh > > http://blitz.org/fishhook/ > Hi Dennis, > Valproic acid "reportedly alters thyroid function tests but clinical > importance of this is not known". This information is from page 1102 of: > _Nurse Practitioners Drug Handbook_ > 2nd Edition – 1998 > Publisher: Springhouse > I do not think it actually affects thyroid function but may affect the > TF tests. Therefore before starting any patient on this drug, baseline > TF tests should be done as well as LFTs. If a patient needs to have the > thyroid checked during therapy, the drug needs to be tapered slowly and > when it is out of the person’s system, then the TF tests are done. > I hope this information helps Dennis. E-mail me if I can be of further > assistance. > Take care and be well, > Lynda
Right, this is all I found so far, that valproate affects the /test/, not the /function/. And I’m sure the testers know more than I do about adjusting for the skewed results. — dmh http://blitz.org/fishhook/
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> I was always told that it was Lithium that could affect the thyroid! > Lynda, > I didn’t find any interaction between valproate and thyroxin in the > literature. If you know something I don’t please advise; I’m trying to > prepare a paper with /all/ this stuff in it, it’s scattered so badly > throughout the profession that even the docs haven’t got it all. > TNX. > — > dmh > http://blitz.org/fishhook/
Hi Dennis, Valproic acid "reportedly alters thyroid function tests but clinical importance of this is not known". This information is from page 1102 of: _Nurse Practitioners Drug Handbook_ 2nd Edition – 1998 Publisher: Springhouse I do not think it actually affects thyroid function but may affect the TF tests. Therefore before starting any patient on this drug, baseline TF tests should be done as well as LFTs. If a patient needs to have the thyroid checked during therapy, the drug needs to be tapered slowly and when it is out of the person’s system, then the TF tests are done. I hope this information helps Dennis. E-mail me if I can be of further assistance. Take care and be well, Lynda
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Lithium is known to interfere with the production of thyroxin, giving > the presentation for hyp/o/thyroidism rather than hyp/er/thyroidism. If > you are taking lithium, it is standard practice (or should be) for > thyroxin levels to be checked at the same time as for lithium. If this > is not being done, somebody slipped. Bring it up with your pdocs, > people, but they’ve probably got it covered. > Interference with thyroxin is one of the causes of weight gain among > bipolars; the more significant cause, however, is boredom-eating, > whether you happen to be manic or depressed. Because this cause changes > markedly over time, so does the resulting weight. > Valproic acid alters thyroid function tests so it is important to inform > any of your health care providers that you are on Depakote or Valproic > acid. Actually, they should be informed of any and all meds you are > taking for your safety. > Take care, > — > Lynda
Lynda, I didn’t find any interaction between valproate and thyroxin in the literature. If you know something I don’t please advise; I’m trying to prepare a paper with /all/ this stuff in it, it’s scattered so badly throughout the profession that even the docs haven’t got it all. TNX. — dmh http://blitz.org/fishhook/
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I was always told that it was Lithium that could affect the thyroid! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Lithium is known to interfere with the production of thyroxin, giving > > the presentation for hyp/o/thyroidism rather than hyp/er/thyroidism. If > > you are taking lithium, it is standard practice (or should be) for > > thyroxin levels to be checked at the same time as for lithium. If this > > is not being done, somebody slipped. Bring it up with your pdocs, > > people, but they’ve probably got it covered. > > Interference with thyroxin is one of the causes of weight gain among > > bipolars; the more significant cause, however, is boredom-eating, > > whether you happen to be manic or depressed. Because this cause changes > > markedly over time, so does the resulting weight. > Valproic acid alters thyroid function tests so it is important to inform > any of your health care providers that you are on Depakote or Valproic > acid. Actually, they should be informed of any and all meds you are > taking for your safety. > Take care, > — > Lynda > Lynda, > I didn’t find any interaction between valproate and thyroxin in the > literature. If you know something I don’t please advise; I’m trying to > prepare a paper with /all/ this stuff in it, it’s scattered so badly > throughout the profession that even the docs haven’t got it all. > TNX. > — > dmh > http://blitz.org/fishhook/
– Kimber "Recognize your emotional style and make it work for you."
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> > Just to share with you my experiences. > For years, I had been telling doctors that there was something wrong with my > thyroid.
Dear Cinda and Dennis, CINDA: Thank you for your important post.Health care providers need to listen to and look at their patients. Really basic, but lord, often neglected. DENNIS: Excellent good information. Thanks you for posting. I wish both of you – Happy Holidays. Take care , Lynda
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> Lithium is known to interfere with the production of thyroxin, giving > the presentation for hyp/o/thyroidism rather than hyp/er/thyroidism. If > you are taking lithium, it is standard practice (or should be) for > thyroxin levels to be checked at the same time as for lithium. If this > is not being done, somebody slipped. Bring it up with your pdocs, > people, but they’ve probably got it covered. > Interference with thyroxin is one of the causes of weight gain among > bipolars; the more significant cause, however, is boredom-eating, > whether you happen to be manic or depressed. Because this cause changes > markedly over time, so does the resulting weight. > — > dmh > http://blitz.org/fishhook/
Does depakote have the same effect on the thyroid? — Christian The mind of modern people may be very advanced technologically, but it remains heavily thought-laden and thus lacking in clarity. - Koh Kok Kiang
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> Lithium is known to interfere with the production of thyroxin, giving > the presentation for hyp/o/thyroidism rather than hyp/er/thyroidism. If > you are taking lithium, it is standard practice (or should be) for > thyroxin levels to be checked at the same time as for lithium. If this > is not being done, somebody slipped. Bring it up with your pdocs, > people, but they’ve probably got it covered. > Interference with thyroxin is one of the causes of weight gain among > bipolars; the more significant cause, however, is boredom-eating, > whether you happen to be manic or depressed. Because this cause changes > markedly over time, so does the resulting weight.
Valproic acid alters thyroid function tests so it is important to inform any of your health care providers that you are on Depakote or Valproic acid. Actually, they should be informed of any and all meds you are taking for your safety. Take care, — Lynda
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Just to share with you my experiences. > > For years, I had been telling doctors that there was something wrong with my > > thyroid. > Dear Cinda and Dennis, > CINDA: > Thank you for your important post.Health care providers need to listen > to and look at their patients. Really basic, but lord, often neglected. > DENNIS: > Excellent good information. Thanks you for posting. > I wish both of you – Happy Holidays. > Take care , > Lynda
You’re welcome, welcome, welcome. TNX for acknowledgement… sometimes feel like I’m yelling down a well, and not just this ng… — dmh http://blitz.org/fishhook/
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Lithium is known to interfere with the production of thyroxin, giving > the presentation for hyp/o/thyroidism rather than hyp/er/thyroidism. If > you are taking lithium, it is standard practice (or should be) for > thyroxin levels to be checked at the same time as for lithium. If this > is not being done, somebody slipped. Bring it up with your pdocs, > people, but they’ve probably got it covered. > Interference with thyroxin is one of the causes of weight gain among > bipolars; the more significant cause, however, is boredom-eating, > whether you happen to be manic or depressed. Because this cause changes > markedly over time, so does the resulting weight. > — > dmh > http://blitz.org/fishhook/ > Does depakote have the same effect on the thyroid? > — > Christian > The mind of modern people may be very advanced technologically, > but it remains heavily thought-laden and thus lacking in clarity. > - Koh Kok Kiang
Reading like hell on recent stuff (I’m a few years out-of-date, I find) for a majorly article on bipolarity, to be posted my home page with others. So far, I find utterly no connection between valproates and thyroxin interference; that’s confined to lithium. However, there is a significant but small reporting of liver dysfunction to include death, due to the fact that valproate is metabolised almost entirely in the liver. Thus, liver function should be checked before administering valproate, and as often as valproate levels are checked. Symptoms of dysfunction are general and disjoint, but include malaise, utter lack of energy (physical, not mental, cf. the usual complaints with our depressive states), anorexia. Suspicion of liver dysfunction should be reported /immediately/, but point is that liver function is supposed to be checked in the same blood draw as valproate levels; this will give a faster and more certain indication of dysfunction. P.S. The reaction is rather unusual, but /must/ be reported in the literature if it happens at all. It has. Another bugger with valproate is fetal toxicity and birth defects; if you find yourself pregnant, STOP TAKING VALPROATE IMMEDIATELY, and don’t even wait for your doc’s say-so. However, report your stoppage /as a medical emergency/ and immediately. — dmh http://blitz.org/fishhook/
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Lithium caused me to develop Hashimotos thyroiditis (which is an auto immune condition. It caused my antibodies to attack my thyroid) My thyroid is shot and will never come back, even if taken off the med. This is something I accept in trade for stability. Treacha :as the tree grows… :the bird flies…the cloud forms… :wherever you go, there you are
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Hello > > A lady where I work used to be a nurse. She mentioned to today that she > > noticed I was doing much better on my meds. She believes that due to my > > patterns maybe I have hyperthyroid and not manic depression. I am thin > > although I can eat what I want and gain weight. I am going to the doctor > > next week to have my lithium level checked so I will just have them do a > > thyroid test as well. My question is has anybody had any experience with > > thyroid overacting? My grandmother had thyroid problems. > > Just curious > > Sarah > Just to share with you my experiences. > For years, I had been telling doctors that there was something wrong with my > thyroid. Well, they would run the standard blood tests and say there was > nothing wrong with me. This autumn, about the time my brother died from > complications brought on by thyroid cancer, someone wrote in > alt.support.depression "to be aware of doctors who diagnose solely by the > numbers" but also get them to look at your symptoms as well. She included a > couple of links in her post which I’m sorry I don’t have but if you put > hypothyroidism in your search engine I’m sure you’re come up with more than a > few links or try miningco.com in their health area. When I followed the links, > I found that all those little idiosyncrasies that I thought were just me could > in fact be signs of hypothyroidism. I printed out the sites and took them to my > doctor. (by the way, I should add, I had just had by bi-annual blood work done > and the thyroid number was smack dab in the middle of the normal range.) At > first he was hesitant but after asking me about a couple of symptoms, deciding > that my thyroid could be enlarged, and being reminded that my brother had died > of thyroid cancer, he sent me for a resistance scan. > During this, they first inject you with a radioactive substance, give it 20 > minutes to accumulate in your thyroid and take some X-rays. After this you are > given an iodine pill and you have to come back in 24 hours to see how much > iodine is still in the thyroid. Again, my numbers were right were they should > be. But when the X-rays were read, they found that one side was larger than the > other, so doctor ordered an ultrasound of the area and made an appointment with > an ear, nose and throat man…also told me that from now on I would be treated > as high risk… I had the ultrasound a week ago and it took 3 days for my neck > to stop hurting. As a result of the ultrasound, they now believe there are some > cysts on the thyroid which will, at the very least require a biopsy if not > complete removal. Either way, I have been told that the family doctor will be > treating me for hypothyroidism. > I guess this doesn’t answer your question very well in the sense of how does > hypothyroidism affect bpd; but, I wrote it to strongly encourage you and > everyone else to research the problem and the symptoms and, if applicable, take > it to your doctor and tell him you’re going to be a pain in the ass until he > does constructive something to shut you up. > As I was told a couple of times during this by placating types–some symptoms > can be attributed to a number of things. And so they can be, but also a person > has a gut feeling about how their body is and if your mind is saying something > is wrong, most probably there is. Even if you’ve been labeled hypochondrc, it > could be that something might be Literally in your head. Many depressives > complain of a lot of ills. I don’t know where I’m going with this but I’d > thought I’d share with you. > Cinda
Lithium is known to interfere with the production of thyroxin, giving the presentation for hyp/o/thyroidism rather than hyp/er/thyroidism. If you are taking lithium, it is standard practice (or should be) for thyroxin levels to be checked at the same time as for lithium. If this is not being done, somebody slipped. Bring it up with your pdocs, people, but they’ve probably got it covered. Interference with thyroxin is one of the causes of weight gain among bipolars; the more significant cause, however, is boredom-eating, whether you happen to be manic or depressed. Because this cause changes markedly over time, so does the resulting weight. — dmh http://blitz.org/fishhook/
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Lynda That TSH test is exactly what she told me to ask for. I know they have done some blood testing on my thyroid before I will just make sure that this TSH test was done and if so came back within normal limits. Sarah – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Dear Sarah, >I believe having your TSH (thyroid stimulating hormone) level checked is >a wise thing to do. You may want to ask your pdoc why it wasn’t done >before meds were prescribed for you. >Best of luck to you and let us know how everything turns out. >Take care and be well, >Lynda
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I have the low (Hypo) thyroid condition. I take synthroid. It is caused by a side effect of Lithium and/or Depakote.
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Hi Leo, Me too! I developed Hashimotos Thyroiditis from taking Lithium, its an auto-immune disorder and permanent (sp). Will have to take Synthroid for life. I can empathsize with you. —-Treacha Where ever you go, there You are!
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> Hello > A lady where I work used to be a nurse. She mentioned to today that she > noticed I was doing much better on my meds. She believes that due to my > patterns maybe I have hyperthyroid and not manic depression. I am thin > although I can eat what I want and gain weight. I am going to the doctor > next week to have my lithium level checked so I will just have them do a > thyroid test as well. My question is has anybody had any experience with > thyroid overacting? My grandmother had thyroid problems. > Just curious > Sarah
Yes indeed! – I’ve just been tested for thyroid problems, and the rusults suggest that some psychiatric symptoms may in fact by thyroid-related! The really ironic fact is that I have been suggesting this possibility to all my docs for the past 15 years – and they never listened to me!
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there’s two different tests–a regular thyroid test, and a thyroid panel (there’s a few hormones globbing in there)…the panel is more complete and may pick up things that the reg test does not. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hello > A lady where I work used to be a nurse. She mentioned to today that she > noticed I was doing much better on my meds. She believes that due to my > patterns maybe I have hyperthyroid and not manic depression. I am thin > although I can eat what I want and gain weight. I am going to the doctor > next week to have my lithium level checked so I will just have them do a > thyroid test as well. My question is has anybody had any experience with > thyroid overacting? My grandmother had thyroid problems. > Just curious > Sarah
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No hyperthyroid for me my doc had already tested it and the TSH (or THS) or whatever test came back normal. Sarah
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> > Hello > A lady where I work used to be a nurse. She mentioned to today that she > noticed I was doing much better on my meds. She believes that due to my > patterns maybe I have hyperthyroid and not manic depression. I am thin > although I can eat what I want and gain weight. I am going to the doctor > next week to have my lithium level checked so I will just have them do a > thyroid test as well. My question is has anybody had any experience with > thyroid overacting? My grandmother had thyroid problems. > Just curious > Sarah
Just to share with you my experiences. For years, I had been telling doctors that there was something wrong with my thyroid. Well, they would run the standard blood tests and say there was nothing wrong with me. This autumn, about the time my brother died from complications brought on by thyroid cancer, someone wrote in alt.support.depression "to be aware of doctors who diagnose solely by the numbers" but also get them to look at your symptoms as well. She included a couple of links in her post which I’m sorry I don’t have but if you put hypothyroidism in your search engine I’m sure you’re come up with more than a few links or try miningco.com in their health area. When I followed the links, I found that all those little idiosyncrasies that I thought were just me could in fact be signs of hypothyroidism. I printed out the sites and took them to my doctor. (by the way, I should add, I had just had by bi-annual blood work done and the thyroid number was smack dab in the middle of the normal range.) At first he was hesitant but after asking me about a couple of symptoms, deciding that my thyroid could be enlarged, and being reminded that my brother had died of thyroid cancer, he sent me for a resistance scan. During this, they first inject you with a radioactive substance, give it 20 minutes to accumulate in your thyroid and take some X-rays. After this you are given an iodine pill and you have to come back in 24 hours to see how much iodine is still in the thyroid. Again, my numbers were right were they should be. But when the X-rays were read, they found that one side was larger than the other, so doctor ordered an ultrasound of the area and made an appointment with an ear, nose and throat man…also told me that from now on I would be treated as high risk… I had the ultrasound a week ago and it took 3 days for my neck to stop hurting. As a result of the ultrasound, they now believe there are some cysts on the thyroid which will, at the very least require a biopsy if not complete removal. Either way, I have been told that the family doctor will be treating me for hypothyroidism. I guess this doesn’t answer your question very well in the sense of how does hypothyroidism affect bpd; but, I wrote it to strongly encourage you and everyone else to research the problem and the symptoms and, if applicable, take it to your doctor and tell him you’re going to be a pain in the ass until he does constructive something to shut you up. As I was told a couple of times during this by placating types–some symptoms can be attributed to a number of things. And so they can be, but also a person has a gut feeling about how their body is and if your mind is saying something is wrong, most probably there is. Even if you’ve been labeled hypochondrc, it could be that something might be Literally in your head. Many depressives complain of a lot of ills. I don’t know where I’m going with this but I’d thought I’d share with you. Cinda
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> Hello > A lady where I work used to be a nurse. She mentioned to today that she > noticed I was doing much better on my meds. She believes that due to my > patterns maybe I have hyperthyroid and not manic depression. I am thin > although I can eat what I want and gain weight. I am going to the doctor > next week to have my lithium level checked so I will just have them do a > thyroid test as well. My question is has anybody had any experience with > thyroid overacting? My grandmother had thyroid problems. > Just curious > Sarah
Dear Sarah, An imbalance in one’s endocrine system can trigger a depression and/or mania. Hormonal balance is important in regulating one’s moods. Actually, all persons should have their thyroid levels checked in the initial workup. This should be SOP. Organic causes of psychiatric conditions, especially ones which present acutely or abruptly, should always be ruled out before concluding that a person has a bonafide "mental" illness. I believe having your TSH (thyroid stimulating hormone) level checked is a wise thing to do. You may want to ask your pdoc why it wasn’t done before meds were prescribed for you. Best of luck to you and let us know how everything turns out. Take care and be well, Lynda
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I believe a lot of bipolars used to be treated for thyroid problems, especially before lithium came on the scene. They destroyed my grandmother’s thyroid and she had to take supplements thereafter. Anyway, better to listen to your doctor than someone who used to be a nurse. (Well, what kind?) You will probably need a doctor’s order for that thyroid screen.
))>Hello ))> ))>A lady where I work used to be a nurse. She mentioned to today that she ))>noticed I was doing much better on my meds. She believes that due to my ))>patterns maybe I have hyperthyroid and not manic depression. I am thin ))>although I can eat what I want and gain weight. I am going to the doctor ))>next week to have my lithium level checked so I will just have them do a ))>thyroid test as well. My question is has anybody had any experience with ))>thyroid overacting? My grandmother had thyroid problems. ))> ))>Just curious ))>Sarah ))> ))> Keith Hardwick
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Hello A lady where I work used to be a nurse. She mentioned to today that she noticed I was doing much better on my meds. She believes that due to my patterns maybe I have hyperthyroid and not manic depression. I am thin although I can eat what I want and gain weight. I am going to the doctor next week to have my lithium level checked so I will just have them do a thyroid test as well. My question is has anybody had any experience with thyroid overacting? My grandmother had thyroid problems. Just curious Sarah
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Sarah, When I first went to my phychiatrist he did a complete blodd work up on me including my thyroid and anti-thyroid hormones (?). Ask your doctor aboout it. I also have thyroid disease in my family however. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hello > A lady where I work used to be a nurse. She mentioned to today that she > noticed I was doing much better on my meds. She believes that due to my > patterns maybe I have hyperthyroid and not manic depression. I am thin > although I can eat what I want and gain weight. I am going to the doctor > next week to have my lithium level checked so I will just have them do a > thyroid test as well. My question is has anybody had any experience with > thyroid overacting? My grandmother had thyroid problems. > Just curious > Sarah
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I have HYPO-thyroid…… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Hello >A lady where I work used to be a nurse. She mentioned to today that she >noticed I was doing much better on my meds. She believes that due to my >patterns maybe I have hyperthyroid and not manic depression. I am thin >although I can eat what I want and gain weight. I am going to the doctor >next week to have my lithium level checked so I will just have them do a >thyroid test as well. My question is has anybody had any experience with >thyroid overacting? My grandmother had thyroid problems. >Just curious >Sarah